Originally by: Soleil Fournier

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We need upgrades that:

Increase the number of belts in a system.
Increase the security rating of the system to spawn better rats or ores.
Increase the number of rats that spawn in a system. (I don't mean anomalies)
Decrease the spawn timer of rats, from 20 minutes to 10 minutes.
More upgrades like these ^

The problem with 00 and why alliances take huge areas of space is because there are a lot of systems that people just can't make money out of. And the systems you can make money out of only support 2-3 players tops. Those upgrades you listed throw the idea of upgrading worthless systems to be somewhat usefull out the window. If you want each system to support 50 people like ya'll have been touting, you need significant changes to this proposed system, because those changes listed do nothing to help support more players.

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Originally by: CCP Soundwave

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I completely agree that systems will be able to sustain about 10, possibly 15 people active at one time (which to be fair is a pretty massive increase from what we can do now). It's not the perfect solution, but it gives us a pretty solid base to work from.

In terms of the upkeep costs, remember that you'll be getting rid of towers and the fuel costs for said towers. If it turns out that the system cost here is backbreaking for alliances, it's something we can re-visit.

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